Battle 33 - Outer Space and Out of Time

edited April 2015 in Battles
Welcome to the battle of the Double 3s!

Usual rules about being fully produced within the OP-1 and recorded to album, etc., and...

1. You must use at least one sample, but as many more as you wish, from the NASA Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nasa  I believe these have been used in previous battle, but not as a rule.  I have a particular fondness for NASA and space exploration, for a multitude of reasons. 

2. At least 1/2 of the tune must be in an 'odd meter', i.e. not 4/4. You can do 3/4, 5/4, 7/8, 13/16, 63/64 etc. If you do something more ephemeral/ambient, at least try to make it sound somehow off-kilter, if you see what I mean. I know this will not always be easy, esp. when it comes to looping on tape... but that's the challenge!

3. Feel free to use any internal synth or stock drum kit, but no other samples that are not from NASA. 

4. Have fun and enjoy yourself.

Entry deadline: May 3rd

Edit: Also feel free to use any samples from NASA, including the ones at Archive.org (mentioned below) https://archive.org/details/nasaaudiocollection 
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  • Oh this sounds interesting!
  • SPACE SAMPLES! yes! great brief!
    I have to get in on this competition.

    Last year ADAMSKI released an album in 3/4 (waltz) timing - he did a few interviews that are worth checking out to do with strange timings, I think Sonic State did a video interview with him actually.
  • 7/4 and 13/4 !!!!
    My favorites !!
    :D
    This and space samples, really fine challenge, @wingo !

    [Unneeded note : the lower number of the fraction 3/4 means that the unit of time is "a whole note divided by 4" = a quarter note. So if you mean a measure of 7 quarter notes you should write it 7/4. That was my 2 pence of musical theory.]
  • Last year ADAMSKI released an album in 3/4 (waltz) timing - he did a few interviews that are worth checking out to do with strange timings, I think Sonic State did a video interview with him actually.
    I remember that... I think it was SonicState.  Would make sense because I think the guy Mark that always shows up is Adamski's brother. Here is an interesting article I found, with examples: http://www.attackmagazine.com/technique/passing-notes/bored-of-44-other-time-signatures-in-dance-music/ ;


    [Unneeded note : the lower number of the fraction 3/4 means that the unit of time is "a whole note divided by 4" = a quarter note. So if you mean a measure of 7 quarter notes you should write it 7/4. That was my 2 pence of musical theory.]
    'tis true that 7/4 is 7 quarter notes in a bar, but 7/8 is also a thing - just 7 1/8th notes (quavers) in a bar.  The difference is mostly contextual... it depends on where you feel the main pulse.  Sort of like the difference between 3/4 and 6/8. It's about the phrasing, really.  And even stuff like 11/16 is technically real, but you're wading into ridiculous math rock territory there. :)
  • edited April 2015
    wingo said:

    [Unneeded note : the lower number of the fraction 3/4 means that the unit of time is "a whole note divided by 4" = a quarter note. So if you mean a measure of 7 quarter notes you should write it 7/4. That was my 2 pence of musical theory.]
    'tis true that 7/4 is 7 quarter notes in a bar, but 7/8 is also a thing - just 7 1/8th notes (quavers) in a bar.  The difference is mostly contextual... it depends on where you feel the main pulse.  Sort of like the difference between 3/4 and 6/8. It's about the phrasing, really.  And even stuff like 11/16 is technically real, but you're wading into ridiculous math rock territory there. :)
    Ahah no pb, I just wasn't sure you were aware of this @wingo, and I felt it was interesting to add a little note (:B) on musical theory...
    Quaver/eighth note is rarely seen, so the 63/64 notation seemed to me closer of a pattern length in a sequencer than a real measure notation.

    and 7/4 is definitely not the same as 7/8 ^^
    but I understand what you mean... 
  • Oh, I'm so going to do this one.

  • edited April 2015
    @wingo Emma's dream phone is a sick track! 

    Thanks for hosting and nice rulez. Im in, will be lots of fun and learning. 
  • A big Hello to everyone.
    This is my contribution to the competition:

    https://soundcloud.com/kosmonaut-bill-1

    Enjoy!

  • Oh, I need to make something for this, I love space samples, and 3/4 time music! If you are interested in NASA samples there is a ton of stuff available at archive.org (here: https://archive.org/details/nasaaudiocollection) but I assume that for this competition we only use the soundcloud stuff, right?
  • @stahlwerk I say feel free to use any samples that come from NASA. Thanks for the link!
  • Hey @Kosmonaut_Bill looks like your link just goes to your profile... I think this is the actual track link below (sounds great!):

    https://soundcloud.com/kosmonaut-bill-1/pocket-satellites-transmission ;
  • Thanx a lot for your help @wingo
    ...seems that all these various "internet-things" are still riddles for me :-)
  • @Tomavatars I'm cool with that!
  • edited May 2015
    https://soundcloud.com/overseas_territory/they-r-in-control
    well here's mine, I decided to only use Nasa samples and no internal synths, and I think it's in a 5/4 kind of feel
    thanks for hosting this battle @wingo I think its going to be a good one!


  • Dude, yeah @Overseas_Territory, that's what I'm talking about! I love that people are getting the idea and experimenting with it. Keep 'em coming!  
  • I'd love to be part of this. I will see if I have the time - also I'm still learning the basics of the machine...
  • I can't find any instructions on how to enter. Maybe I didn't search carefully enough (I'm at work). Do I just upload my entry on my soundcloud and then link it in this thread?
  • Ah, this is perfect.  I have a super nifty six LP set of Nasa stuff from Time Life that I found at a record store a couple weeks ago that I have been DYING to sample. 
  • Here's an entry from me.


    I tried to be as wonky as I could with the time signatures (mostly 7/8 and 15/16) which was lots of fun. I over-listened to it while making it to the point that I've no idea what it sounds like now :)
  • VERY nice use of the voices @yoof !!

    Damn, you manage to get Kennedy say something fun ! I had thrown away the idea to use it...
    Plus the insane 3 2 2 5 4 serie had already brought me into a very good mood :D

    I found the track a bit long, but 6' (even minus 6'') is so OP-1 !
    ;)
  • Haha, thanks for the kind words @LyingDalai. And fair comment about it being too long... I just get obsessed with filling all the tape up :-)
  • @yoof Very nice entry! I am unable to produce something "unstructured" as you did ( I am not saying your track lacks structure, I am sure you get the idea).

    I love the countdown too :)
  • Loving that @yoof it's solid!
    The breakdown/slowdown after the JFK snippet is awesome!
  • Cheers guys! Yeah, I went totally overboard with that slowing down section... I think that tiny section took me four 40m train journeys - arduous stuff, but I love getting lost in the tiny details. It feels like madness when you're doing them, but brings a smile to your face when you listen back.
  • @yoof That's right !
    But somehow I found that refining stuff is not what the OP-1 is good for :)
    This asks commitment, repetition, concentration...
    But it's right that I found myself lost in details many times, like "huh ? night is already down ?"

    @Eti, I'll deliver you a very useful trick for making it easier to create uncommon-bars patterns...
    First, choose drums, and select the pattern sequencer.
    Place a basic pattern.
    Then place a back and forth playing.
    Use the white encoder to get a count that suits you best.

    Try to get some groove out of it, adding/moving/deleting stuff.
    Try it with other kits, different pitch, etc.
    It will grow on you, and then you'll get confident enough to try it with the melodical part ;)
    You can then refine this by entering your uncommon structure in endless or, better, finger seq, so that you can play polyrhythmic crazy chainings of pattern.

    I find it VERY funny, a few hours on such project, and 13/4 or 7/4 feel almost natural... I mean, I found myself SINGING a 7/4 melody I'd been working on for hours : quite weird !
  • @LyindDalai I will try to do this tonight. I am still quite new to the op1, I am always searching for new ways to play with it. I may have watched EVERY tutorial on youtube but I want more so thank you!
  • edited April 2015
    I really love your track @yoof ! Nice work !
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