Op-1 discontinued?!

This article claims the op-1 will officially cease production due to difficulty with the screen.

http://www.synthanatomy.com/2018/12/teenage-engineering-op-1-synthesizer-officially-discontinued-rip-1.html

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  • Wow! Sad news if it's true

  • it does come w/ the caveats temporarily and until further notice
    no idea what that really means but there might be some hope?

  • The TE shop now says:

    "OP–1 availability is delayed until further notice."

  • They have problems with the screen? Hmm

  • I will now be selling my ‘rare’ and ‘out of print’ OP1 for £5,000

  • Now we know why there is no screen on the OP-Z...

    hehe

  • sweetwater guitarcenter website no op-1, I booked in perfect circuit two weeks ago. sad might never arrived

  • edited December 7

    I think this may be pointing towards an OP-1 Mk II, like Elektron did with their flagships. Before TE changed the serial number format a couple years ago, we figured they were selling around 2000-3000 units per year...

  • Also have a current order in with Perfect Circuit. Emailed about whether or not my order will be fulfilled. Ordered on 11/2. They already charged me so I’m hoping so...bumming pretty hard. I’ve had an OP-1 but had to sell it last year... was hoping to get back in the game. :(

  • It's a shame they lost that component because it seemed like so many people were waiting on backorders, based on lurking in the op-1 subreddit.

  • It would be sad if the OP-1 is on anything longer than just a sabbatical. As they new they might have to deal with the situation pre-OP-Z release, do you think that TE hiked-up the price of the unit? Id like to know if the battery in those beta units was the/a trans-atlantic one (cynically thinking that they changed it to a cheaper one before release to maximise profits). I had been pondering whether to sell mine, or Machinedrum for the op-z, bloody glad i didnt now!

  • It would be sad if the OP-1 is on anything longer than just a sabbatical. As they new they might have to deal with the situation pre-OP-Z release, do you think that TE hiked-up the price of the unit? Id like to know if the battery in those beta units was the/a trans-atlantic one (cynically thinking that they changed it to a cheaper one before release to maximise profits). I had been pondering whether to sell mine, or Machinedrum for the op-z, bloody glad i didn`t now!

  • I’m surprised it was in production for so long, given the lifecycle of other technology products and the components used to build them. However it could also be a case of TE giving priority to the OP-Z and the OP-1 is just paused for the time being until they get some more or compatible screens and OP-Z demand levels off. The other thing to consider is the number of units out there, they are not exactly in short supply, at one time they were shifting 500 units per month, so you might see a bit of price gouging but if nobody buys them then the price shouldn’t get ridiculous for used OP-1s.

  • Good news (although I do not know is it true):
    Russian store (official representative as I understand) said that TE sent them a message and they informed that OP-1 isn't RIP. TE just suspend the release of new OP-1s casue they have some problems with parts (maybe with screens).
    Sorry for my English. I try very hard but it's bad)

  • Maybe a 1.5 version is in the works, demanding a complete overhaul... i hope so. Anyway, i Had an order pending but I will cancel it, dont want to pay a full price unit for a discontinued thing.

  • @igr_kstk said:
    Good news (although I do not know is it true):
    Russian store (official representative as I understand) said that TE sent them a message and they informed that OP-1 isn't RIP. TE just suspend the release of new OP-1s casue they have some problems with parts (maybe with screens).
    Sorry for my English. I try very hard but it's bad)

    :) hope you are right for the sake of all those that still want one.

  • The lack of comments on this thread shows how much this board has moved onto the OP-Z topics...

  • Mmmm... maybe. Or there’s not much to say about this, I guess ;)

  • @LyingDalai said:
    Mmmm... maybe. Or there’s not much to say about this, I guess ;)

    +1

  • .....on ebay ...3000$ + used.....new 7000+.........i cant believe these prices are for real

  • I’m really, really bummed. I know they’ll be back, but the wait is going to kill me. I may buy an OP-Z, but it’s no where near as capable or as all in one as the OP-1...not yet anyway. Firmware evolution will likely enhance the -Z, but you really can’t beat the -1. Here’s hoping it has a quick return to production so that those that paid $2700 for one can wince a bit. 😂

  • edited December 9

    There is one on Reverb for 750 used in mint condition. Sorry it was the op-z I saw

  • @FLDPLN said:
    I’m really, really bummed. I know they’ll be back, but the wait is going to kill me. I may buy an OP-Z, but it’s no where near as capable or as all in one as the OP-1...not yet anyway. Firmware evolution will likely enhance the -Z, but you really can’t beat the -1. Here’s hoping it has a quick return to production so that those that paid $2700 for one can wince a bit. 😂

    The chances of the op 1 being released again are 0.....if they do release something without the screen it wont be anything like it. 50% of the op1 was the screen.

  • Somehow I find this funny....can it be really that hard to find someone in china, who will produce that same screen for you, or make another screen fit in there?
    ....as the OP-1's screen wasn't what you would call a perfect fit from the beginning.
    Not dissing, it just seems very strange

  • I'm really hoping for a multitimbral op-2. It would be so cool with the op-z.

  • edited December 9

    @RisingSon said:
    Somehow I find this funny....can it be really that hard to find someone in china, who will produce that same screen for you, or make another screen fit in there?
    ....as the OP-1's screen wasn't what you would call a perfect fit from the beginning.
    Not dissing, it just seems very strange

    it could be. music gear to electronics factories is very small potatoes. they basically don't care.
    likely to produce a part they want to move many millions of units.
    whatever it is prolly too many for TE to purchase/fund alone.

    there are newer screens that they are prolly manufacturing, OLED screens still exist.
    but it would seem they aren't drop in replacements for the screen the op1 uses.

    so to make a new screen fit, would likely mean reworking the boards, troubleshooting,
    maybe even completely overhauling it, tweaking the software, etc.
    could end up being impossible, or at the very least a great deal of work.
    enough work that it may be better/make more sense for them to just do something new
    (kinda seems like this is atleast partially where the op-z came from)
    it seems like they are trying something whatever that is, so they are willing
    how much tho, will remain to be seen

  • @docshermsticks
    Thanks for the info.
    Well as an OP-Z owner I am kinda glad about this, cause it means more work goes into the OP-Z to make it an outstanding product that replaces the OP-1 after all :)

    My fortune cookie says I have DIRECT SAMPLING in my future...

  • edited December 9

    no prob. yea i wanted sampling too until i got mine
    and i kinda don't really care anymore.
    (obv would welcome it i guess, and any other features they want to implement
    but sometimes too many things makes a device too convoluted
    and theres already quite a bit going on in the Z)
    its different, like i just loaded it up w/ packs and i got tons of sampled sounds to work w/
    the synths are cooler than u think.

    its pretty dope for what it is
    not to mention i got plenty of samplers
    and if u really wanted to, the Z does midi pretty nicely
    so would be easy to connect each other
    and let each device do what it does best

    i also wonder how they would implement the sampling and sampling features
    the 3 way TRRS out+mic smartphone-esque jack thing doesn't excite me for an input.
    another adapter u have to keep around.
    i really don't ever use the app either.
    i only used it for like 15 minutes the first day to help feel my way around
    i don't want to use the app at all really. its just another device wasting juice
    that i don't really need to be buzzing while i'm getting in the groove.

  • Yeah, it actually wouldn’t be a big deal to source new displays. Not actually, but the number they’d have to buy, that could be an issue. i should say however that for a company to discontinue a product in high demand is kind of dumb. That’s leaving money on the table. If it were something made obsolete, that might be a thing (OP-2?) but the OP-Z is certainly not that product. The OP-1 kind of is it’s own thing. Ways to improve it? Sure, absolutely...but, isn’t it’s limitations sort of part of what makes it great? The tech existed when it was released to make a much more robust machine, but that wasn’t entire the point. So, it’ll either be back or replaced with the next iteration. I can’t see it being considered replaced by OP-Z, with or without a screen. Also, from Instagram, TE mentions the last time you’ll be able to get one “this side of 2019”. So... Thoughts?

  • @RisingSon said:

    My fortune cookie says I have DIRECT SAMPLING in my future...

    Gotta have it, baby! I need my stuff dirty, dirty! :smile:
    I know the updates will probably bring sampling from the mic, but we’ll need to buy modules to sample and stuff... all good, I’m totally in if that’s the case... but I dunno, there’s just something so right about that little keyboard and the design. I miss it. No knocking OP-Z though... I know it has a big future and I’ll be on one too no doubt at some point... I just need my sampling/resampling! :wink:

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