PO-33 K.O! vs OP-1 samplers

can anyone who has the k.o! already compare it to the sampling capabilities of the op-1?
when i got my op-1 i thought i would sample all day long but somehow i don't don't do it very often and tend to just use the on-board synths a lot.
thought the po-33 might kick off my sampling ambitions a little more on the fly.
so, how do these compare when it comes to sampling instruments, vocals, noise and so on + applying effects?
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  • Well I'm the opposite in that I have an Op1 and am looking at getting the Ko.
    I use my op1 samplers all the time, but having a little device to carry around will just increase sampling opportunities and exploration :)
  • I'm hoping the OP-Z can sample and be that thing too.  That's a great point for the Ko.
  • someone pointed out that the opz appears to not have a line in.
  • There must be some way, its also meant to do MIDI and CV sequencing but doesn't appear to have connections for those either.
  • Maybe the add ons/modules? 
  • According to the OP-Z preview page, the 3.5mm plug is a 4-pole jack. Doesn't that mean that there's room for stereo out and mono input, with a breakout cable? In theory at least...

  • KO is 8 bit sampler, OP-1 is 24bit
  • KO is 8 bit sampler, OP-1 is 24bit
    ok what exactly does that mean? audio quality on KO videos sounds fine to me.
    however i will pick it up tonight and try myself finally ;)
  • The KO is much more lofi than OP1 as you’d expect, sounds nice but not clean.
  • edited February 8
    Hey klausklaerwerk, nothing wrong with the sound of the KO, just pointing out the sampling differences between the two machines. Some people like a high quality sample to work with :-)
  • @vehka great you pointed out the 4 pole jack! It does indeed mean mic in!
  • so the PO33 is really fun! someone has some drumkit samples to share?
    also what would be best to do in order to get a drumkit with really 16 working samples?
  • so the PO33 is really fun! someone has some drumkit samples to share?
    also what would be best to do in order to get a drumkit with really 16 working samples?
    yes, will create another thread in case anyone else needs some..
  • cool. any suggestion on how to record drumkits timing-wise?
  • cool. any suggestion on how to record drumkits timing-wise?
    If you mean sequencing, just experiment. Start with maybe a hi hat pattern that catches you. Then layer the kick and snare live and mess with the swing function afterward. Or do that in reverse..And of course with parameter locking you can freak the pitch, volume and filters to add character..


    If you mean recording samples, the main thing is stopping the recording as soon as you have everything. Since 40 seconds is a bit of a limitation..
  • yeah i mean the drumkit sampling. i want to record 16 sounds and actually have them on the 16 pads afterwards. most times when i try some pads don't have anything on them at all.
  • KO is 8 bit sampler, OP-1 is 24bit
    simultaneously super impressed and frustrated with the po-33

    impressed that TE was somehow able to fit all of these sampling capabilities into a pocket sized device

    frustrated that we are in the present and are living with the tech limitations of right now

    knowing that TE may not ever produce another pocket sized sampler in the same form factor, what might this have looked like in 5 years from now? 10 years?

    4x the bit rate? more sample storage time?

    10x even?

    what do the samplers of the future look like? bigger, smaller?

    does akai take note that people want small and make an mpc mini? i know TE is a niche company in a billion dollar marketplace but do things like this move the needle in any measurable way? i hope so

  • so the PO33 is really fun! someone has some drumkit samples to share?
    also what would be best to do in order to get a drumkit with really 16 working samples?
    Just press FX button twice to get the sign "tri" in the upper right corner, than you can adjust the length (start/end position) of each sample inside the drum loop sample. Use the knobs. Super easy ;)
  • I made a little Drumkit in anticipation of the PO-33 arriving.
    The drumhits are evenly placed, so if you stop recording on beat you will have one drumhit on each button.

    Hope it works out for you guys...I'll wait a little longer until my PO arrives.


  • Shark42, iPad can sample audio quality for hours. Check out beatmaker 3
  • Shark42, iPad can sample audio quality for hours. Check out beatmaker 3
    yeah i know but i guess im mainly talking about small inexpensive hardware. something more tactile than a screen. plus who feels like carrying an ipad everywhere to sample something on the fly. i’m sure plenty do but i cant see myself pulling out the ipad and queing up the app to sample something like the strange melodic sound my air conditioner makes when its starting up and shutting off, know what i mean
  • Is there an easy way to delete KO used sample slots that im not triggering right? Sound, number, and record pressed together sometimes flash delete on the upper right other times the cou tdown starts with less than 8, say 3 seconds.
  • edited February 9
    KO is 8 bit sampler, OP-1 is 24bit
    simultaneously super impressed and frustrated with the po-33

    impressed that TE was somehow able to fit all of these sampling capabilities into a pocket sized device

    frustrated that we are in the present and are living with the tech limitations of right now

    knowing that TE may not ever produce another pocket sized sampler in the same form factor, what might this have looked like in 5 years from now? 10 years?

    4x the bit rate? more sample storage time?

    10x even?

    what do the samplers of the future look like? bigger, smaller?

    does akai take note that people want small and make an mpc mini? i know TE is a niche company in a billion dollar marketplace but do things like this move the needle in any measurable way? i hope so



    The limitations are not technology reasons, they are design decisions based on the hardware platform used, even 10 years ago a much better specced pocket sampler could have been made, just that no one decided to do it.
  • Shark42, iPad can sample audio quality for hours. Check out beatmaker 3
    yeah i know but i guess im mainly talking about small inexpensive hardware. something more tactile than a screen. plus who feels like carrying an ipad everywhere to sample something on the fly. i’m sure plenty do but i cant see myself pulling out the ipad and queing up the app to sample something like the strange melodic sound my air conditioner makes when its starting up and shutting off, know what i mean
    Just get a h1 zoom. Record all sorts then sample from the h1
  • KO is 8 bit sampler, OP-1 is 24bit
    simultaneously super impressed and frustrated with the po-33

    impressed that TE was somehow able to fit all of these sampling capabilities into a pocket sized device

    frustrated that we are in the present and are living with the tech limitations of right now

    knowing that TE may not ever produce another pocket sized sampler in the same form factor, what might this have looked like in 5 years from now? 10 years?

    4x the bit rate? more sample storage time?

    10x even?

    what do the samplers of the future look like? bigger, smaller?

    does akai take note that people want small and make an mpc mini? i know TE is a niche company in a billion dollar marketplace but do things like this move the needle in any measurable way? i hope so



    The limitations are not technology reasons, they are design decisions based on the hardware platform used, even 10 years ago a much better specced pocket sampler could have been made, just that no one decided to do it.
    Agreed though not only design/hardware decision but business as well. Gotta churn a profit with all that development. 
  • edited February 10
    You know, I'm sure it's been mentioned, but the parameter locks alone, give the KO abilities beyond the OP-1. At least some unique kind of workflow.

    I'll defs be getting a KO and a speak at some point.
  • I'd love to hear some a/b comparisons from someone who has KO and op-1... Like an amen break, or some kick drums... Just a few different sounds, I'd be very happy to nerd out with y'all over the comparitive qualities.
  • edited February 12
    Both POs support re-sampling, I think. Just wire the output to input and record :) Ok, not a memory friendly solution especially on PO-33, but it can increase the polyphony.
    I'm wondering whether this wiring would cause unsafe loopback however. Is there anybody brave enough to try it out? :D
  • I made a little Drumkit in anticipation of the PO-33 arriving.
    The drumhits are evenly placed, so if you stop recording on beat you will have one drumhit on each button.

    Hope it works out for you guys...I'll wait a little longer until my PO arrives.


    great kit, thanks!!! sampling worked great on first try.
  • Both POs support re-sampling, I think. Just wire the output to input and record :) Ok, not a memory friendly solution especially on PO-33, but it can increase the polyphony.
    I'm wondering whether this wiring would cause unsafe loopback however. Is there anybody brave enough to try it out? :D
    if the input feeds into the output so u can monitor live while u record, then this will create a feedback loop.
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