What happened to the MPC Live?

Just curious about your opinions.

Anyone get it?

It looked pretty awesome when they announced it. 

Did it end up being the magic box that could?

Any op1ers on here will be able to give me a better perspective than all the YouTube videos in the world...

Cause if you're an op1 guy, then we understand each other, yaknow....

PS. Tried to write "yaknow" one word and it keeps trying to autocorrect to "yak now"... Immediate yak, plz.
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  • edited November 13
    I was super interested in the MPC live when it was announced. Was looking for a more traditional sketch pad to combo with op1 and it looked ideal. Didn't have money at the time tho to order pre-release and then they hiked the price and then Beatmaker 3 dropped on iPad at an introductory price that seemed like a no-brainer to check out. Very similar feature set. Ended up killing any gas I had for the MPC and I bought a more powerful iPad (was on a mini2 and copped a 2017 9.7" 128gb).

    Endless modulation in comparison (and more confirmed to be added), AUv3 integrated synths like Zeeon + Model 15, high quality/whacked out AUv3 fx, integrate granular apps like idensity, fast and frequent updates and transparent devs. Etc....Yeah, it needs externals if you don't wanna hit glass but for me iPad and op1 is pretty much portable scratch pad dreamteam.. And for sampling I use a Roland duo ex. Akai would have to add TONS to the MPC OS for me to become interested again in copping one..

    Also, via familyshare my daughter now has an iPad that is stacked with great music apps that didn't cost anything, which was a nice result (and I can sometimes borrow it and instantly kinda have 2 x MPC live equivalents for the price of one.. Kind of..)
  • I was super interested in the MPC live when it was announced. Was looking for a more traditional sketch pad to combo with op1 and it looked ideal. Didn't have money at the time tho to order pre-release and then they hiked the price and then Beatmaker 3 dropped on iPad at an introductory price that seemed like a no-brainer to check out. Very similar feature set. Ended up killing any gas I had for the MPC and I bought a more powerful iPad (was on a mini2 and copped a 2017 9.7" 128gb).

    Endless modulation in comparison (and more confirmed to be added), AUv3 integrated synths like Zeeon + Model 15, high quality/whacked out AUv3 fx, integrate granular apps like idensity, fast and frequent updates and transparent devs. Etc....Yeah, it needs externals if you don't wanna hit glass but for me iPad and op1 is pretty much portable scratch pad dreamteam.. And for sampling I use a Roland duo ex. Akai would have to add TONS to the MPC OS for me to become interested again in copping one..

    Also, via familyshare my daughter now has an iPad that is stacked with great music apps that didn't cost anything, which was a nice result (and I can sometimes borrow it and instantly kinda have 2 x MPC live equivalents for the price of one.. Kind of..)

    That's very compelling. I think for me, I'm pretty happy with using Ableton on my laptop with a small soundcard, coupled with my op-1...

    I wonder how much Beatmaker 3 costs.
  • Yeah, MPC Live just seems kind naff. Kinda like a DAW, but less easy to use... Not that much smaller than a laptop with a small sound... Not really stoked on it... Touchscreen graphics look kinda naff... I know that usability is really the thing to care about, but as any OP-1 fan knows, a sexy interface which IS highly functional is a real joy to behold.
  • I was super interested in the MPC live when it was announced. Was looking for a more traditional sketch pad to combo with op1 and it looked ideal. Didn't have money at the time tho to order pre-release and then they hiked the price and then Beatmaker 3 dropped on iPad at an introductory price that seemed like a no-brainer to check out. Very similar feature set. Ended up killing any gas I had for the MPC and I bought a more powerful iPad (was on a mini2 and copped a 2017 9.7" 128gb).

    Endless modulation in comparison (and more confirmed to be added), AUv3 integrated synths like Zeeon + Model 15, high quality/whacked out AUv3 fx, integrate granular apps like idensity, fast and frequent updates and transparent devs. Etc....Yeah, it needs externals if you don't wanna hit glass but for me iPad and op1 is pretty much portable scratch pad dreamteam.. And for sampling I use a Roland duo ex. Akai would have to add TONS to the MPC OS for me to become interested again in copping one..

    Also, via familyshare my daughter now has an iPad that is stacked with great music apps that didn't cost anything, which was a nice result (and I can sometimes borrow it and instantly kinda have 2 x MPC live equivalents for the price of one.. Kind of..)

    That's very compelling. I think for me, I'm pretty happy with using Ableton on my laptop with a small soundcard, coupled with my op-1...

    I wonder how much Beatmaker 3 costs.
    Yeah tbh I'd still rather use laptop over iPad for daw stuff that's in the MPC/BM3 area. It's cool to pick it up and mess with on the sofa or in bed. OK for an ideas scratch pad but falls somewhere in a grey area. Not as inspiring as OT/op1/organelle etc and not as convenient/fluid as using a permanently connected mature Daw + controllers. Maybe that'll change after some updates but for now it's not quite on par...
  • If you're committed to sample based music, especially hip hop, the MPC Live is an incredible device. Things are quiet here, but there's a lot of enthusiasm among those that bought.
  • Yeah, MPC Live just seems kind naff. Kinda like a DAW, but less easy to use... Not that much smaller than a laptop with a small sound... Not really stoked on it... Touchscreen graphics look kinda naff... I know that usability is really the thing to care about, but as any OP-1 fan knows, a sexy interface which IS highly functional is a real joy to behold.

    First of all, stop saying "naff". :D

    Anyone who appreciates the OP-1 for the workflow associated w/ a dedicated piece of hardware should get what's great about an MPC. You should actually try one. Have you ever worked w/ an MPC before? Because this is basically that celebrated workflow, plus about 100x more. 

    Just like the OP, the immediacy of a dedicated piece of hardware blows DAW work out of the water. I promise you I'll have 5 beats of heat going on that device, before you get your samples chopped on a notebook DAW.


  • Yeah, MPC Live just seems kind naff. Kinda like a DAW, but less easy to use... Not that much smaller than a laptop with a small sound... Not really stoked on it... Touchscreen graphics look kinda naff... I know that usability is really the thing to care about, but as any OP-1 fan knows, a sexy interface which IS highly functional is a real joy to behold.

    First of all, stop saying "naff". :D

    Anyone who appreciates the OP-1 for the workflow associated w/ a dedicated piece of hardware should get what's great about an MPC. You should actually try one. Have you ever worked w/ an MPC before? Because this is basically that celebrated workflow, plus about 100x more. 

    Just like the OP, the immediacy of a dedicated piece of hardware blows DAW work out of the water. I promise you I'll have 5 beats of heat going on that device, before you get your samples chopped on a notebook DAW.


    Dunno man, Ableton is pretty killer for chopping/sequencing samples these days since they updated the sampler. Not knocking the MPC, if I had one I know id enjoy it. But just not sure it would take me anywhere that ableton/BM3 don't already. Whereas op1 and ot definitely steer me off track in their own inimitable way.
  • edited November 16
    I have been thinking of getting either the Mpc Live or Octatrack, but would mean selling my Digitakt & Sp404sx.

    I used to use a mpc2500 and once you get your head around an Mpc they are a real powerful bit of kit.
    They are a workhorse though, not super inspiring but very capable.

    Mpc Live + Op1 would be pretty rad I reckon
  • MirEko said:


    Mpc Live + Op1 would be pretty rad I reckon

    I can vouch that.

    I have BM3, and I can tell you that the interface is FAR more convoluted than working w/ an MPC Live. Also, the MPC trucks along w/o a hiccup, no matter what I throw at it. If you can get 20-30 tracks going on BM3 without problems, please send me a vid. I'd love to see it.

    For me, the biggest drawback to iOS music is all the audiobus / iAA crap you have to deal with, and all the... shall we say... "less than cooperative" relationships between apps that crop up.

    The iPad has its place in my collection as an instrument, and a sound source. But using it to bring disparate elements together into one unified project is an excercise in frustration.

    By the time I have everything clicking, my inspiration Is seriously depleted. I love designing a cool couple of sequences in Sector or Samplr, but in the end, I feed it all into the MPC.
  • Yup, ios still feels like a year or two from being totally fluid for full on production... but AUv3 is your friend ;) Simple as loading a plugin or soft synth in a daw. I totally swerve anything that uses IAA or audio bus. Waaaaay too stressful/buggy..

    BM3 VS MPC looks kinda even.. pros and cons both ways in terms of functionality. But the price is a very different story ;) I'm sure I'd dig MPC live but my hardcore gas for it, weighing up selling stuff to buy one, was pretty short lived. Maybe I'll cop the the next one tho if it has more cpu for on board synths and has warp markers, better fx and more modulation etc by then. The hardware 'all in one' interface and PC daw integration definitely appeals.. Akai pretty nailed that side of it.
  • If you're committed to sample based music, especially hip hop, the MPC Live is an incredible device. Things are quiet here, but there's a lot of enthusiasm among those that bought.

    Ok, good to know. :)
  • edited November 17
    iOS would only work for me if I could erase all other functionality and even then would have to get dedicated controllers. Same goes with working on a computer too for me. Having said that I find the MPC Live quite uninspiring, new Akai stuff is pretty bland imo. Just my tuppence worth.
  • (sorry for the negativity, think I need a coffee!! :D )
  • Regarding BM3 and the like - its super easy finding tutorials on it but much harder finding finished tracks (or anything) with it on youtube.  Speaks volumes.
  • Thats kinda inevitable tho? Would be like someone filming a finished track playing back in Ableton... No fun to shoot or watch ;)


  • iOS would only work for me if I could erase all other functionality and even then would have to get dedicated controllers. Same goes with working on a computer too for me. Having said that I find the MPC Live quite uninspiring, new Akai stuff is pretty bland imo. Just my tuppence worth.

    You should try one.
  • It sounds like there is a workflow mismatch. I really want one of the new MPCs, but I can't justify it at this time. Dunno about the Live, but I get the idea Akai is trying to own the standalone production sampler again. That's a different space than most of the gear we talk about here. I mean, "bland" -? it should be, imo, as long as it has all the facilities to help you process the material. Personally I don't expect much creative support from one of these, just a solid set of tools and a solid workflow.

    It's certainly not for everyone, but as long as I have disposable income, it will be one of my targets. The creative stuff is more important for me right now, and who knows, maybe something else will cure me of my desire for one, but I sort of doubt it.
  • iOS would only work for me if I could erase all other functionality and even then would have to get dedicated controllers. Same goes with working on a computer too for me. Having said that I find the MPC Live quite uninspiring, new Akai stuff is pretty bland imo. Just my tuppence worth.

    You should try one.


    Have had an MPC500 and MPC1000 in my time, weren't for me and the Live even less so. And I'm happy with what I've got...
  • edited November 17
    anomalous said:

    It sounds like there is a workflow mismatch. I really want one of the new MPCs, but I can't justify it at this time. Dunno about the Live, but I get the idea Akai is trying to own the standalone production sampler again. That's a different space than most of the gear we talk about here. I mean, "bland" -? it should be, imo, as long as it has all the facilities to help you process the material. Personally I don't expect much creative support from one of these, just a solid set of tools and a solid workflow.

    It's certainly not for everyone, but as long as I have disposable income, it will be one of my targets. The creative stuff is more important for me right now, and who knows, maybe something else will cure me of my desire for one, but I sort of doubt it.


    I'll say this; the process, from sampling, chopping, assigning, performance, effect automation, arrangement to export is the full package, and the final exported song sounds GREAT. If you're into sample-based production, there's really no debate. It's a home run.

    I like that I can set the legacy effects (SP-1200 / MPC 60 / 3000) to the line in, so when I sample from vinyl, I get that old grime.

    I think it's generational, too. For me, no sound tops that early-90's boom bap grit. It's really the genre I'm most committed to, and the MPC is the workflow I love.

    Shy of the OP, that is.
  • edited November 17

    Have had an MPC500 and MPC1000 in my time, weren't for me and the Live even less so. And I'm happy with what I've got...

    I'd like to qualify this, I probably ain't the target market for MPCs. To @ludicrouSpeed though, what you wanting to achieve with the MPC? Inspirational tool, Music Production Center, DAW in a box, sample based loops?

  • i hope they make a smaller one.  not a big fan of the touchscreen and how behemoth it is for a portable device.
  • edited November 17
    It's comical as there was so much hype prior which hasn't been met since release. Personally I would want a fully tactile interface as the touch screen thing isn't fun. Your never going to replicate the sound of legacy machines
  • Did anyone see the YouTube video of the guy that purchased an mpclive used for 2 weeks and returned it for an OP1?

    He raised a few interesting points that I think might resonate with a few people here. Namely how he felt the device didn’t bring out any creativity in him. He thought it was a well designed device and loved what it offered from feature list. He just felt it wasn’t pulling interesting results out of him. He then talked about what he experienced in his first day with the OP1 and how he intuitively started creating original music in a much more organic way.

    I was one click away from purchasing an MPC live around about the same time purchase my OP1, but hesitated since it was so new without any reviews online. I wish the OP1 did had a few more refined specs like the MPC (longer sampling, better quality in/out) but I am really happy with my decision. If money was no object I would indeed own both! Instead, my consolation was BM3 and a MPC drum pad.
  • I bought the MPC Live right when it was released. It is a very nice piece of gear. But I returned it after a week. It had just a couple work flow problems I couldn’t work with.
    I think if you are an MPC Head it is a great MPC. But that means certain limitations. It’s the perfect hip hop machine. I May even get another one in the future.
    After I returned it I went and found myself an OP-1. Been having fun with it. A very different workflow from an MPC.
  • Mpc are great for linear song creation and drum pad performance.
    The strength of the Mpc live to me is it looks like a great unit to built up tracks on. Huge SSD HD in it for all your sampling and just turn it on and built up a track over weeks etc.
    I may get one in the Black Friday sales
  • Have had an MPC500 and MPC1000 in my time, weren't for me and the Live even less so. And I'm happy with what I've got...

    I'd like to qualify this, I probably ain't the target market for MPCs. To @ludicrouSpeed though, what you wanting to achieve with the MPC? Inspirational tool, Music Production Center, DAW in a box, sample based loops?

    Hmm, tbh I'm not really in the market for the one! Haha, but I was rly interested with this thing, but never gassed too hard. I was waiting to see that real use-case reviews. Might be something I'll want to get at some point. But at the moment, I'm happy with my setup, and I can't see a gap to fill with this device. I guess it's the space between my laptop + soundcard (or just laptop when I'm editing) and something smaller. If the mpc had rly long battery life, that could be a selling point.

    Like y'all say, it's just a matter of personal needs / workflow. I just felt like I'd heard a lot of talk about the mpc before it came out.
  • But not a lot after it was out.

    But I probably just missed it.

    Those of you in this thread who have one seemed stoked on it, so that says a lot.
  • But then another couple of people who opted out for op-1s... Yeah, it seems like the mpc live does what it does well, so cool if that's what you're after. I got Ableton for my needs beyond op1.
  • Good topic.

    Growing up as a hip hop head living in a magical but poor and far away country made it really hard to afford something better than an MPC 500 when I was younger. Well, when I managed to get one it was a disappointment: the small screen made navigating the folders a nightmare, the workflow was so abstract and all the editing, nearly impossible to I feel really bad about my impossibility to tame it and only found love and pleasure again making music when I bought my OP1 in 2013 (and Elektron hardware after that - big love Sweden <3). 

    This year I traveled to Japan, sold lots of gear and was thinking about getting a SP 1200 there. Although It was easy to find a good unit (and with cheaper prices than the eBay ones), I thought better and decided to split that big money in other nice things there. However, because I needed a sampler (sold my Octatrack) I started thinking about the new MPC Live, which all the reviews were praising. It was REALLY REALLY hard to find one in Japan (indeed, I got the *last one* available Amazon.jp) and, after all, I was facing an MPC again. 

    But time things are running much more smoother and musical this time :) 

    Obviously isn´t so immediate as an OP-1 and the sequencing structure is arcane (but less that the Octatrack). However, it IS immediate enough when you understand the basics of sampling, pad assigning and simple editing (like using multiple samples in one pad and using LFOs) - and it´s very simple to learn the basics because the screen is gorgeous and tactile. It´s amazing to edit a sample by touch, the pads are delicious and responsive (frankly, after trying all the old MPCs created by Akai I think that the MPC Live pads are my favorite along with the 2000XL), editing the beat in an DAW-esque view is a breeze and I don´t even need to praise all the joy of doing beats where you want, in all this OP-1 style lithium battery freedom. And it sounds huge. The outputs are hot and not flat at all! And I even didn´t tried the peripherical MIDI capabilities and the live loops (which appears to work like a more tight/trimmed down version of Push and Maschine Jam). 

    Akai really nailed it with this one. 

    Is it to everyone? I don´t know. There´s a steep learning curve on it - one that I´m still struggling, to be honest (but more because my time is sparse and less because of any particular difficulty of the unit). Isn´t the OP-1 - indeed, isn´t even the Digitakt or the Analog Rytm in terms of instant complex groove making. For straight 4/4 music, in a more formal structure, nothing can beats Elektron today IMHO and I´m studying it side by side with the Digitakt (sold my Analog Rytm too).

     But if you are into hip hop or ant to do beats with more groove, in a more open structure (but obviously with more resources than the SP 404/SP 303), I cant think of a better machine - and one that is a perfect partner to Teenage Engineering magic gear, with the OP1 and the Pocker Operators feeding samples to it. And it feels truly stand alone - specially when you think that you can use pen drives, sd cards and even put a hard disk inside it. I´m not planning at all of installing the MPC 2.0 software. And the old school connection capabilites - fuck, there´s a video in Youtube of a guy unboxing it, plugging and usb disk reader and opening old MPC projects from 20 years ago in like 5 minutes! It this real life? :) 




  • @aoneer
    I want one now :D
    I have had the 500/2000/2500..
    Now have a Digitakt.
    But as good as the Digitakt is it is definitely a more live techno edm thing, where as I am more lofi beats style and hip hop
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